this is a fox news alert. dallas chief of police speaking for overd֖ an hour following a ambush attack on his officers, saying he and his family have received death threats since that time. hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle. chief david brown saying he won't be satisfied until he is sure there are no other threats

a foal of 13 officers used force to battle back against the suspects. 11 of them -- >> reporter: micah johnson arrived here to kill cops. he tried to get into the building to get a second floor position so he could shoot down on them. the doors of el centro college were locked. he fired at the glass door. a bullet penetrated the stomach of corporal bryan shaw, who will need surgery. the glass fragments tore into the levegs of john abbott. as for the investigation, the chief said the $150,000 robot sustained some damage when it

killed johnson, but it's going to be okay and he would do it again. he's not figured out what those initials rb mean that were scrawled on the wall of the garage by johnson in his own blood, nor has he disclosed or decided how many weapons or firearms were at the scene, nor is he prepared to say exactly how much of the type of explosive that was discovered in the search warrant. they have not confirmed if there are any accomplices to this crime for can they prove that anyone in his family knew of his intentions. but he said the investigation is ongoing. >> i am a little bit old school cop. until you show me we've exhausted every lead, i'm not going to be convinced that we know everything about what happened, associations, others that might be complicit. so we're going to turn over every rock. we're going to follow every lead until it's exhausted, until i'm satisfied that this was the lone

person. i may be overly concerned about this. but i'm highly protective of cops. >> reporter: now, johnson's father, james, reached out to the website blaze, and he gave them this quote. "i don't want to say anything. i have nothing to say that will make this better. but i didn't see this coming." johnson's mother also told the blaze, and i'm quoting, "he was a fun-loving extrovert when he went into the army but an introvert when he came out." >> how is chief brown doing and his department? i can only imagine the stress they're under, and the shock and grief. >> reporter: well, the department apparently is doing fine. do you know that after the day of the shooting, everyone on roll call showed up that day. that's implosiressive. number two, he said personally he's running on fumes, going to funerals and trying to take care of his department. he says he may mandate

counseling for his officers because cops, as you know, are the last to ask for any help. >> thanks for the update. the dallas police chief saying crime rates in the city have actually been going down for years. chief david brown noting a 53% reduction in crime in 2015. that is more than any other major u.s. city. and the most in dallas history. 2015 saw the city's fourth lowest murder rate since 1930. and in 2014, dallas had its second lowest murder rate in nearly 85 years. >> they've done this by also protecting the civil rights of our citizens through community policing. in 2015 we had a 67% reduction in excessive force complaints. we average over 150 to 200 every year for the past 33 years. and year we had 14.

>> incredible numbers. let's bring in heather mcdonald, the author of "the war on cops" and a senior fellow at the manhattan institute. really incredible numbers that we saw in dallas, and yet look at this police department, this city, just this siege by this heinous criminal act. >> well, kimberly, the black lives matter narrative is utterly impervious to facts. i applaud chief brown for bringing down force complaints in the city, and that's basically true of departments across the country. policing today is more professional than it's ever been. and yet we still are trying to combat this utterly mendacious narrative that the cops are preying on inner city residents rather than saving their lives. >> and it's police departments across the country going out there, putting their lives on the line every day. when they wake up in the morning, go to bed at night, not

knowing if they are going to see their families again. i was personally struck by the stories of heroism, one woman talking about the officers literally covering her body and the body of her son, her child, to be able to shield them from bullets and fire. just really incredible. we don't hear enough stories like that. but for some reason we hear the stories and get the videos of the things that go wrong, which are as you're saying, very small in number. is that true? >> they're absolutely very small in number. and the problem facing inner city black residents today is black criminals. criminals. it's not the police. the police could end all force tomorrow and it would have a negligible effect on the black death by homicide rate, because it's so astronomically high. in chicago, as trump just mentioned, you've had 2,090

shootings. all of those police shootings were of violent and resisting suspects. but nobody is out there protesting those 2,090 victims of violent crime. >> i want to get you to listen to this. this is chief brown talking about being part of the solution and how hiring comes into play. take a listen, heather. >> be a part of the solution. serve your community. don't be a part of the problem. we're hiring. we're hiring. get out of that protest line and put an application in, and we'll put you in your neighborhood. we will help you resolve some of the problems you're protesting about. >> heather, good idea? >> of course it is, kimberly. but hiring is at a dead stop in this country in police departments, not surprisingly.

when you have a narrative that president obama has embraced, that cops are infected with lethal biases against blacks, there's very few people who want to go into that calumny and have their good faith questioned on a daily basis. as the police chief of pasadena, california told me last summer, it's not an applicant pool anymore, it's an applicant trickle. so i hope chief brown and others like him can overcome this phony media narrative. >> he's definitely calling on people, he said stop protesting, come in and pick up an application and try to be part of the community and part of the solution here. obviously to have as well diversity in the police departments. heather, thank you so much for being with us. and this is a fox news alert. we're awaiting a briefing from the white house as vice president biden holds a closed door meeting with law enforcement. then tomorrow the president and vice president along with former

president george w. bush are all set to attend an interfaith memorial service in dallas for the police officers killed in the line of duty. rich edison is live from the white house briefing room. >> reporter: good afternoon, kimberly. in a few minutes the white house briefing is expected to begin, it should have started already five minutes ago. thus far president obama has struck a very nuanced tone. this weekend on his european trip he urged protesters to remain peaceful. >> i want all of home to maintain a respectful, thoughtful tone, because as a practical matter that's what's going to get change done.

i would hope that police organizations are respectful of the frustrations that people in these communities feel. >> reporter: the white house says president obama will travel to dallas tomorrow. he will speak at an interfaith service. they say he will also meet with victims' families and those who were injured. president george w. bush will also attend and speak at that ceremony. >> what kind of criticism has he gotten? >> reporter: well, as the protests have continued, as these shootings have continued, there is at least one police union official who is saying that president obama should take a stronger tone against the police or the black lives matter movement. the official is william johnson of the national association of police organizations. and he says that president obama should criticize the entire black lives matter movement. >> the refusal to condemn movements like black lives matter, actively calling for the death of police officers, that type of thing, all the while

blaming police for the problems in this country, has led directly to the climate that has made dallas possible. >> reporter: and on the left, a professor and activist, cornell west, telling "the washington post," "president obama has always got to explain to white america how black people are feeling. black people don't feel as if we're being treated unequally -- it's a fact that we're being treated unequally. he always has to serve in this translating role. the president is too differential in these matters." the recent gallup poll taken this spring says that more than a third of americans find race issues to be a great deal or are worried a great deal about race relations, that's double the percentage of a couple of years ago. >> thank you for that report, rich. and this is a fox news alert. we're waiting for a press conference with the heroic first responders from the dallas

police attack. this is at parkland hospital near the scene of the shooting. we're going to bring it to you live as soon as it starts. bernie sanders getting ready to hit the campaign trail again, with hillary clinton. where and when, and could it give her a boost after the fallout from the fbi's e-mail investigation? plus dallas's police chief doubling down on his decision to send in a robot bomb to kill the man deliberately firing at his officers. why the chief says he absolutely made the right call by using it. >> he was asking how many did he get. and he was telling us how many more he wanted to kill. this wasn't an ethical dilemma for me. i would do it again. i would do it again it save our officers' lives. and this is a fox news alert. we'll take you live right now to the press conference with the heroic first responders from the

dallas police attack. this is at parkland hospital near the scene of the shootings. >> i would like to say thank you to the dallas police department for everything they do keeping us safe every single day. my condolence to the families of those that were lost. >> i'm joseph menay, i'm a professor of surgery at u.t. southwestern and the chief of the division of burn trauma and critical care. i'm also the chief of surgery here at parkland. >> my name is brian williams. i'm an associate professor of surgery for ut southwestern. i'm a trauma surgeon and i was in charge the night the dallas officers came into the trauma center here. >> i'm alex seesman, medical director here at parkland and assistant professor at ut southwestern medical center also. and i'm a lieutenant deputy chief medical officer of the dallas police department. >> i'm dan burbank, the patrol captain for the dallas police department. >> i would like to open up with

a statement. first off, i would like to thank the police police officers of this fine city, both dallas police department and d.a.r.t., for the service they give and the care they render every day, as well as the evening, thursday night. i would also like to give my condolences and on behalf of parkland the condolences to the families, friends, and the other police officers who are reeling from this tragedy and the death of their loved ones. i would like to thank our parkland family, including all the doctors who were here, the nurses who helped care for patients, all the support staff in administration and throughout the hospital, as well as our own police department, who helped us stay safe that night. i would like to note that during that evening, there were already

almost 300 people in the emergency room at the time that this event started. and over the course of the four or five hours, while it was all happening, another 134 patients came through the emergency room doors. it's a testament to this hospital and the people who serve this community at this hospital for the care that they delivered to all those in the setting of this tragedy. i would like to thank the health care community nationally. we received an outpouring of support from across the country of many, many health care systems, too many to name. and we're thankful for the support that they've given us. the health care community at a time like this also comes

together, the way a community does, the police community did. and we as a community also are supporting each other through this difficult time. with that, i would like to open up to any of my other colleagues who might like to give a comment. >> again, i'm brian williams. i want to state first and foremost, i stand with the dallas police department. i stand with law enforcement all over this country. this experience has been very personal for me and a turning point in my life. there was the added dynamic of officers being shot. we routinely care for multiple gunshot victims. but the preceding days of more black men dying at the hands of

police officers affected me. i think the reasons are obvious. i fit that demographic as an individual. but i abhor what has been done to these officers and i grieve with their families. i understand the anger and the frustration and distrust of law enforcement. but they are not the problem. the problem is the lack of open discussions about the impact of race relations in this country. and i think about it every day. that i was unable to save those cops when they came here that night. it weighs on my mind constantly.

this killing, it has to stop. black men dying and being forgotten. people retaliating against the people that are sworn to defend us. we have to come together and end all this. >> i would like to open it up for questions. >> reporter: can you describe the scene of the emergency room that night? as you mentioned, 300 people, and then another 34, then all happening at once. >> the trauma center is a self-contained area within the entire emergency department. so that scene was pretty well-controlled. and again, i say it's routine for us to care for multiple trauma victims at the same time. so it was business as usual for us. however, we did have to flex

with our personnel resources to accommodate the people coming in. for the remainder of the e.d., i cannot comment on that. they did their jobs and did it effectively. >> reporter: if i could kind of respond to that. >> there were 17 trauma patients, trauma activations that came through the trauma center from 7:00 p.m. that night to 7:00 a.m. obviously seven of those were from the police department. three came by ambulance. and the rest came by private vehicle -- or three came by private vehicle and the others came by ambulance. so when we know that we have a patient coming in, we stand up and we prepare and we have the trauma team fully activated. the first patient that arrived, arrived in a private car in very critical condition. we did not know that patient was coming. >> police car, not private car. >> and when that patient arrived, the trauma team stood

up, full activation, and shortly after that, another patient. the trauma surgeons that were in charge that night, the trauma nurses, many of them standing behind you, did our job as we normally do. the difficulty in that situation is we were also accepting other trauma patients as they came in. and there were requests for transfers. patients who were critical, we referred those to our faculty to accept those patients. in a typical trauma activation, there is 15 people that respond to that room, including the trauma faculty, the trauma nurses, respiratory, radiology, and a whole group of individuals that are very dedicated and knowledgeable to trauma care. that was very evident that night, from the housekeeping all the way to our trauma surgeons, those patients were our number one priority. >> reporter: you said you treated seven police officers that night? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: civilians related

to the shooting? >> we had no civilians come through as related to the shootings. >> reporter: can you talk a little bit about the stress following the days of the shooting within the police department or for officers in general? how are they moving forward in doing their jobs? >> sure. i think we have been, as a department, incredibly busy in the days since thursday night. i don't think any of us, i know none of us in the s.w.a.t. unit have had time to decompress and process yet, because our operational assignments have continued to keep the city safe and to respond to a number of things that have occurred since thursday night. i think the chief said it best this morning. we're hurting. we're all ca"

i just can't thank the community enough for their support, what's come to our substations and headquarters, and here at the hospital has been nothing short of remarkable. and to the guys sitting next to

me here, no words can describe how i feel about them, this place, what it was like that night. i came here as soon as i wrapped things up on the scene, i came straight here to make sure that my partners and friends were okay. and i found anything but, when i got here. i think one of the things like -- like the police department, the trauma center here as a family. and we look after each other and take care of one another. we're never better than when we're challenged together. and i can't ever imagine facing something worse than this again. but if we have to, i'll be very glad to have the men and women

of this, the best trauma center in the country, to stand with me. >> reporter: have you all been able -- the chief today mentioned the need for counseling, perhaps even mandatory counseling. is that anything that's already in place, or is that something new? how did that work? >> i'm going to refer you back to the police department. we have a robust psychological services section that helps us deal with post-incident trauma. chief brown's been a national leader in crafting post-critical-incident stress management. [ inaudible ] the specs ifics of those.

>> reporter: when the initial call came in, was there a concern that perhaps it could be of that kind of magnitude? >> often when you get these initial calls, the communication and information is often scant or sketchy or really not reliable. so we have a protocol here, that we gear up, you know, expecting the worst, hoping for the best, that we have minimal to no casualties, but as they come through the door, we geared up to our maximal capacity. in fact we had more surgeons here than we had those that were injured. >> reporter: did everybody go back to work the next day? was there any sort of time to sort of process any of this? or did you have to go back to

running the hospital? >> i'll take that first. i mean, we have been constantly on the go, as the dallas police department s.w.a.t. team says. the incident was thursday into friday. we had more on saturday. i missed my son's birthday party on saturday because duty called. and i don't think any of us really have had a chance to stop yet. [ inaudible ] i don't think any of us have really had the chance to stop yet. in fact the trauma surgeon on call for us right now. so, you know, i think we will have time. but one of the things that i know is that right now, there are people here that need our help. this city needs us to keep pressing forward. and i think what brian said is exactly right. this is a time for all of us to come together, because the path

forward from here doesn't involve focusing on how different we are. the path forward involves the fact that when we have to do what we do, and when you look down on someone who is yo-- youe exploring on the operating room, we all like the same on the inside. we have to move forward. >> reporter: health care experts are moving forward but at the same time you're grieving. how do you afford everyone top notch care while caring for yourself first? mental self-care. you know trauma, you see it every day, but is perhaps this different? >> i appreciate that concern, how we're doing. for me, this is one of the most difficult times in my life. but i recognize that no matter what i'm going through right

now, compared to the families of the officers and the victims that were killed last week, it's nothing. yes, i want some time off. i've been going nonstop since thursday night. those families have lost something very important to them, the officers, the victims in minneapolis -- minnesota, i'm sorry. it was hard for me to complain about my life right now in comparison to theirs. >> reporter: can i ask a k question, geared more towards taking care of yourself mentally, even as a team of surgeons. >> i think -- do you want to answer that? >> go ahead. >> i think that we pride ourselves on the fact that we're

a family. we talk amongst ourselves frequently. and then a bigger component of th that, the nurses, the other providers have had such an outpouring of support. and i was on call, i was the trauma surgeon on call on saturday, and everyone that i met said, hey, great job, tough job, anything i can do to help you. and so i think as us, it helps to have -- to be able to confide with our partners and talk things over and discuss what we went through and how things rant and how they went smoothly, and that helps us. throughout our training, we learn to compartmentalize. this is very difficult, to compartmentalize. i think you can see that all of us are showing signs that we're not doing a great job with that. but beyond that, we have everyone in this entire building has got our back. and that means a lot.

and so knowing that we still have things to do and have to move forward, i think time is only going to make this better. it's like losing a best friend. it's going to take time to get over it. part of getting over it, though, is moving forward with what we have to do on a day-to-day basis. and i think i got a lot of recovery on saturday, taking care of all the trauma patients and the emergency general surgery patients, kind of gave me an opportunity to focus on the things that i do well and not necessarily have to think about the families that are missing people and the other people in the police department that have lost colleagues and friends as well. so that has given me an opportunity to move forward. alex unfortunately hasn't had that chance. brian, maybe today, like me is getting time off from those

responsibilities. that's i think how we do it. every corner i go around, i see someone smiling at me, offering to shake my hand. i like to think that not only are we a family, our division, but parkland as a whole is our bigger family. i'm thankful for that. >> i've also been leaning on my wife quite a bit during this time. she's been incredible. >> yes. i'm not leaning on his wife. [ laughter ] all of our spouses are special people. maybe alex's wife is even more special because he has like five jobs. but they know, and they've come along with us to get to where we are, they've grown with us. if they weren't a huge support for us, we couldn't do the job that we have. and so, again -- yes. >> when i got her on friday morning early, it was probably 3:00 in the morning, 3:30, i was

pretty ragged out from what we had just been through downtown. and -- but i had to come here and see how the family was doing on this end. and the first group of people i bumped into were some of our trauma nurses who are standing in the back. and i could tell that they were relieved that i was okay. but i also was relieved that they were okay. we did have a lot of healing to do. the one thing i know is when times are tough, we do it together. i think we've all talked, hugged, loved each other, over the last few days. and for me, where i haven't had a real chance to sit down and compose my thoughts, nearly everyone in this room that's not behind the camera called me, texted me, checked on me, made sure i was okay, brought their

families to the house, whatever i needed. and i think that's what this place is all about, and will always be about, no matter what you've heard, read, through our ups and downs, the one thing that's been a constant here at parkland is that we pride ourselves on doing whatever, whenever. doesn't matter, we just take care of the patients who present that need us. and i think over the last few days, some of us have needed each other more than ever, and i'm proud to say that i can count on the people up here and across the board to do that. >> can you talk about how many caregivers were there in the trauma center at the height of when everything was going on? and did everyone come to work voluntarily when they heard about what was going on?

>> there were those who were in the hospital at the time, completing their duties, who did not have responsibility in the trauma center, who came down to help. i came in, dr. minshaw came in. we had an army of surgical residents as well here. the number of nurses, i don't even think i could count. there were more than enough people to care for the seven people that came through the door. and you why even count how many more. >> we had the police officers, but there were still other trauma coming in during that time. >> if i could just comment too, parkland has had many exeriences with disaster response. dr. eastman is our disaster medical director.

so this trauma center is very capable of handling almost any type of disaster. we have exercised it, we've planned it, we've done it, responded, and asked ourselves, what didn't work, what did work, and we revisit that and we retrain ourselves. so this experience and our response is a perfect example of that training and how we look at ourselves very critically and ask what needs to be changed. we activated what we call code level yellow 3 response, which means everybody in the house, respond. we don't specifically reach out for a lot of other resources to come in from the outside. and we manage this. and again, the trauma nurses that worked with me were on spot, they knew exactly what to do. we create small teams. every patient got the very best of care, whether they were from the shooting or whether they were a motor vehicle accident that was transferred.

after the event, we go over what worked and didn't work. we're already doing that process. we met today. we had a short debriefing of the event. and we asked, what do we need to do different for the next one. we're already looking at changes for that. >> reporter: what type of changes? >> our changes are almost always communication related. so in this particular event there were a lot of people, as you heard, die come back, do i not come back. we have some new staff members who haven't worked with us in a previous event. so we have addressed that. in a code yellow level 3, you don't come to the hospital unless you're called by other employees. >> reporter: we've heard that the hospital said we can't take any more trauma. >> not for this facility.

we did not stop care at all. >> i was still receiving calls requesting transfer for patients. and our representative who handles transfers came to me and asked, shall we stop the transfers, and my response to her was no, we're a department, we don't shut down. >> i will add to that. as a trauma medical director, i can tell you that in the last three years, we have not spent one minute on trauma divert here. we have been open continuously through everything that has struck this community over the last three years, whether it was ebola, shootings, mass casualty incidents, flooding, chaos, mayhem, whatever has been here. the doors don't close here. and we take that very seriously in our role as the safety net hospital in this community and

as the flagship level trauma center to make sure that we're always available. >> reporter: can you talk at all about the nature of any other cases that you all have dealt with? >> we really can't get into that kind of information. >> reporter: captain, we would love to hear from you. >> it was extremely traumatic. and i first was at home getting ready to lay down for the evening, i was watching the news like most people were to see what was happening downtown, listening to the radio. then i heard the shots on tv. i told my wife that i needed to go. and of course she tried to talk me out of it. and i live just a few minutes from here. i pulled up just about the time

we started receiving patients. as the night wore on, it became evident how bad this incident had occurred. there was a question asked about staff and were they willing to come in. this happened just before our shift change. and so we were fortunate in that, that we had two shifts of officers here. but the officers that had already put their time in, wouldn't leave. and our main objective was to make sure that this facility was safe, that, you know, we had received multiple unconfirmed reports of multiple shooters. we didn't know if we would receive one of the shooters. so we stood up, and we handled what we had to handle. we kept everybody safe. i think it was -- after it was all over, when i got home, that it really hit. but the support from the parkland family has been

overwhelming. the e-mails, the food and everything that our department has received has just been spiritually uplifting for us. so that's pretty much what we were dealing with. >> reporter: i take it this is going to stay with you for the rest of your life. >> i've been in law enforcement 20 years and this is the worst thing i've ever seen. we've seen a lot of trauma come through here. we work in the er along with these guys, making sure everybody's safe. this is probably the worst thing i've seen come through here. it's shaken up, shaken me to the core. we all have a lot of healing to do. it's very hard. i think one of the toughest things i've ever had to do was stand outside the rooms of those fallen guys, you know, providing security detail, and then taking them out to be transferred to the m.e.'s office, through a

line of officers paying respect to their fallen comrades. that's one of the most difficult things i've ever done. it will take some time, and we'll get through it. >> reporter: a lot of people are shaking their heads at that, the moa moments of that night. >> i stepped out 3:00, i just missed out, coming back. when i stepped out, i was getting ready to go across the street to my office to get cleaned up, then i came back over. but one of the most amazing things that i will take away from that night, along with the sorrow, is going out on that path and seeing all the police cars, all of the ambulances, all the providers that were there. that thing was packed. it was like trying to get out of a concert hall after you get out of a concert. there was so many people who had

come here, flocked here to try and help and take care of people. i was in awe. it was truly an amazing scene. i came back over about 4, when the honor guard was there. and there was still -- i had to move people out of the way, cars out of the way to be able to take the bodies. and so it kind of was a mixed emotion at that point, all of what had happened still weighing on our souls. the overwhelming support that was there was pretty amazing. and i still remember looking at that, just shaking my hand, going, this is so incredible. and i just think that was the highlight of a night with a lot of low lights. >> i would like to add to that. when that all occurred, in those dallas officers were in here, they were obviously dealing with

the loss of their loved ones and their partners. and our department had this overwhelming sense of need to protect them. and, you know, our officers let them know that we had their backs, that they could stand down, you know, that they could take care of what they needed to in the e.d. with their officers that were injured and with the ones that were deceased. so to all of my officers, you know, they've expressed that need to be there and to take care of those guys while they were grieving and dealing with what they were dealing with. i'm just very proud of how we stood up to this and dealt with it as a team, when they needed us. >> reporter: has anyone been able to meet with a counselor or anything like that?

>> yes, obviously with it being police officers that were shot, that impacted my guys tremendously. they're seeing this firsthand. i think we all know that when we do this job, there's a chance we may not come home. it became real that night for a lot of our guys, two shifts of our guys. so we've asked that our pastoral care come to our roll calls. we've had briefings to make sure that anybody who is in need of any counseling, it's available to them. so yes, we've been very proactive in making sure our guys are taken care of. >> i'm still working on a real dinner at a dinner table. i haven't made that yet. i'll try to do that first. and then reevaluate from there. so meals have been eaten in squad cars and standing around and on the go. so once i get that done, i'm going to do that and try to go for a run after that, maybe not

right after, but after that. and then i'm going to try to regroup from there. [ inaudible question ] >> i have not. i haven't felt really the need to do that yet. i've had a few good cries dealing with it, trying to get the emotions out. i took my uniforms to the tailor and went in there, the ladies playing music, "wind beneath my wings," which is commonly played at funerals. right there in the tailor's, broke down. it's just a process. i'm getting through it. i haven't sought services yet. i don't think i'm going to need that. i'm processing it. >> to talk about the emotional impact, it's much more complicated for me personally, because it's not just about that one night.

it's about the racial undertones that impact all of this. so it began for me much before those cops came through the door that evening. i don't know what i'm going to do about that. but right now, it is certainly a struggle. there's a dichotomy where i am standing with law enforcement, but i also personally feel and understand that angst that comes when you cross the paths of an officer in uniform and you're fearing for your safety. i've been there and i understand that. but that does not condone disrespecting or killing police officers. it's something i'm struggling with constantly and truly don't know what i'm going to do next.

[ inaudible question ] >> yes, i do. [ inaudible question ] >> so i have a daughter. i make sure that i do simple things when i'm out in public. when i see police officers eating in a restaurant, i pick up their tab. i even one time a year or two ago, i bought one of the dallas police officers some ice cream when i was out with my daughter getting ice cream. i want my daughter to see me interacting with police so she doesn't grow up with the same burden i carry when i interact with law enforcement. and i want police officers to see me, a black man, and understand that i support you, i will defend you, and i will care for you. that doesn't mean that i do not fear you. that doesn't mean that if you approach me, i will not have a visceral reaction and start worrying for my personal safety.

but i'll control that the best i can and not let that impact how i deal with law enforcement. >> dr. williams, i would like to say something to your credit. during our critical incident debriefing that occurred after this happened, dr. williams got up and spoke to the leadership of the hospital. and i think as a law enforcement officer i understand what he's saying. and i -- but one of the things that stood out to me that made me respect dr. williams so much was that he said that when those three police officers came through the door, the initial ones, that not even for a second did he think about anything that was going on or that it compromised him caring for them no differently than he would anybody else. and that to me was very reassuring, that he was willing to set aside any personal feelings that he had and that he was going to care for those guys with everything that he had. and i appreciated that.

>> i'll take it one step further. brian and i are like the rest of the guys here, we are close. and we don't just say that to entertain you. we work together, we play together, we vacation together. our families know one another. our wives know one another. our children know one another. and i think that as a watched us all struggle through this, brian and i have had some very long hugs and the beginnings of some really challenging conversations about how we move forward from here. and i think it's interesting that two guys who truly love each other, and i know he would do anything for me and i would do anything for him, have such very different takes on how this all comes together.

but i think what's been awesome for me is both of our resolves to move the discussion forward and to help turn what is truly a senseless act into something that into something that helps us as a city helps us as family and helps us us at a country to move forward from here. >> and going from there, national spotlight is on dallas right now. what do you want people around the world to know? >>. >> i think listening to chief brown earlier today in his statements, you know, i think he was on point and that we have to

come together as a city, as a community not black and white and hispanic but as a community to figure out how to go forward. i think his words certainly resonated with me and you know, hopefully out of this tragedy, there will be some good that will come out of it and we will be able to make meaningful steps forward as a community in race relations and in caring for each other. and i think you can see here amongst this group, that you know, we don't see each other as black or white. we see each other as a family of surgeons out there to care for

community. >> we can just get a couple more, folks. >> can i say one too that's really important? the chief again, he's a great guy to work for. and he's been unbelievable, what i said this morning was dead on. i'll tell you what i hope people get from this is that we will not let hate drive this discussion and we won't let acts of gun violence drive this discussion. and we won't let this city be known for a hateful act that occurred here. what's going to come from this is that people who never before talked to one another or hugged one another, doesn't matter if you're black, white, surgeon, not, we don't care. doesn't matter. this city is going to come together and show the world exactly what we're made of. and that's what's happening

right now. >> did you want to share something? >> we are debriefed the day after this, morning. and i'm so proud of this team, the staff -- medical staff, it's not easy to be vulnerable and takes a lot of courage to be vulnerable. and you see amongst this team the amount of vulnerability that they have shown. typically when you're dealing with health care workers they tend to be stoic sometimes. we can do whatever is necessary and we can. we're good in tragedies and traumas. really there's an emotional side and i think taking away from this what i'm so proud of, knowing our people are competent in the disaster, is the quality of the human being, the people here and all of the people that help support this tragedy and you here today that it takes courage to be vulnerable.

i'm very, very proud of that and we see that with our surgeons and staff and we're helping support each other through that. really has come through here, see it in dallas and throughout. we love our patients at parkland and do everything we can to take care of them. it takes a hard work here and it's demonstrated. >> reporter: how the nurses that participated in this? >> i think it's a struggle. it takes an emotional toll when you go through something like this. you think though some people may not account for -- two weeks from now, three weeks from now, i think each person will be -- we're still struggling. we're a group that wants to save people's lives and we're terrified to lose lives.

>> i'll say one last thing from my standpoint is that it's hard for me to put this in the focus of the national attention of what's going on with racial issues. i like thinking -- i think we are -- we don't care what color you are, what race you are or what creed, you come here you're a patient and we do the best to take care of you that we possibly can. and i think that's how we live our life and how we treat each other. so at times it's hard for me to put in context when there's still people who don't treat people that way. it's hm almost unbelievable to me. so that's kind of where i am. i think that's where we are as a whole. probably brian with your background is different but certainly the way we are as a group together, i think that's what we are.

and so that's what parkland stands for, doesn't matter insured or uninsured. you come here and we're going to take care of you. >> i know that's what we are and i don't think i know -- as a person up here who wears a couple of different hats, i mean, i'm a dallas police officer and i'm proud of that but i'm a parkland trained surgeon and home grown product and spent my whole career in the walls of this building or the one across the street. i think there's no finer group that i would walk this with again. none. >> any final questions? we're going to wrap it up. a lot of these providers are on duty or have been on duty. thank you very much. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> obviously a very emotional press conference at the parkland

hospital hearing from the first responders who were there that night of the deadly attack on the city's police officers. the dallas police chief with strong words today as well calling his officers the best in the country. casey is live in dallas. >> kimberly, it was difficult to sit there and watch that news conference as you noted, it was very emotional for our viewers watching grown men, doctors that are sitting up at that podium and fighting back tears talking about their experiences, where they were when they got the phone call, just like all of us, it first came out as possible shots fired. then we heard an officer was down and numbers kept changing and they kept going up. those trauma surgeons and other medical staff that worked around the clock to save those officers lives now speaking and justin kredably powerful to hear their stories and talk about how this

has personally impacted them. you know, doctors, of course, are phased with death almost on a daily basis. it's part of what they do. when it comes to their own and the men and women of law enforcement and members of their own community who have taken an oath to protect and serve, that really changed the game. it was hard to put emotions aside for them to do their jobs one doctor is saying, alexander eastman, one of the only ones sitting there without a white lab coat on but he is a physician and he has a dual purpose. not only the director of the trauma medical center and chief of the trauma center there at parkland hospital, but he's also a police officer himself with the dallas police department. in fact, a lieutenant and serves as well as the deputy medical director for the dallas police department. so you know this has hit him

especially hard and this is just something that members of the community are trying to grapple with and quite frankly kimberly, so many are scarred. so many people that we have talked to who live here and call dallas and north texas home are scarred. we ask ourselves, how are we going to move forward and heal from this? but we will because as we know americans in these times stand together. we stand with our neighbors and we pull together to move forward and to heal. dallas will and that is the gist of what some of those physicians were saying at that conference. kimberly, still just difficult this many days later to get your mind around what happened here in dallas. >> you can only imagine just the post-traumatic stress they are all going through and you were there that night doing excellent reporting for us throughout the night. thank you so much, casey. >> thank you. >> as we hear from doctors in dallas, we're remembering those five officers who lost their

lives in the shooting last thursday night. here they are. brent thompson, worked for the dallas rapid transit department. patrick, the youngest officer killed and new dad. michael krol, and michael smith and -- it's 3:00 on the east coast. an investigation into the murder of the five police officers is rapidly moving forward. >> 170 hours of body camera video to download. that is ongoing. >> and the chief also has a message for demonstrators. you can be a part of the problem or of the solution. >> get out and protest and put an application in. as the chief calls for unity, watching demonstrations across the nation, some against police tactic and some supporting those who put their lives on the line to keep us safe. a week before the republican nati